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(Post 1 of 3661) 11/02/1999.03:28:00 |
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MediaRing secures approval to list on SES SINGAPORE (AFX-ASIA) - MediaRing.com said it has received in-principle approval to list on the main board of the Stock Exchange of Singapore. Established in 1993, the company provides software which allows telephone calls over the internet. The company has some 1.60 mln users worlwide as of end-September. Creative Technology holds a 15.0 pct stake in the company. |
| (Post 2 of 3661) 11/02/1999.12:05:00 |
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Announced in HK last week (Ref."Apples" newspaper, Oct.28,99) that Pacific Century Cyberwork's Venture Capital division also holds a 6.0 pct stake in the company. |
| (Post 3 of 3661) 11/11/1999.11:24:00 |
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Mediaring.com may set IPO price at 0.53 sgd each SINGAPORE (AFX-ASIA) - Mediaring.com may set its IPO price at 0.53 sgd each, the Business Times quoted Simon Parker, SG Securities director of equity corporate finance, as saying. SG Securities is the global coordinator and lead manager of the IPO, the report said. Mediaring will list on the Stock Exchange of Singapore on Nov 19 via a public offer of 150 mln shares, 75 pct of which will be sold through institutional investors and 25 pct to retail investors, the report said. Parker said SG Securities has received strong interest from over 100 institutional investors for Mediaring. "With strong demand from institutional investors, the indication is that this will translate to a successful IPO with a strong share price," he said. Mediaring sells internet-based telephony technology and is 15 pct-owned by Creative Technology Ltd. |
| (Post 4 of 3661) 11/12/1999.11:05:00 |
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Mediaring launches IPO of 150 mln shrs at 0.53 sgd each SINGAPORE (AFX-ASIA) - Mediaring.com Ltd said it has launched its initial public offering of 150 mln new shares at 0.53 sgd each. The IPO, representing about 22.40 pct of the company's enlarged share capital, comprises a public tranche of 34.60 mln shares and a placement tranche of 115.40 mln shares, of which 4.60 mln shares will be reserved for employees and business associates. Mediaring said there is also an over-allotment option granted to SG Securities (Singapore) Pte Ltd, which is acting as the global coordinator for the IPO, whereby up to 22.50 mln additional new shares may be issued to cover any over-allotment. The estimated net proceeds of 75 mln sgd will be used for general working capital purposes, it said. The offer closes on Nov 17 and trading on the mainboard of the Stock Exchange of Singapore is expected to begin Nov 19, it said. The company made a net loss of 15.18 mln sgd in the nine months to September compared to a net loss of 5.72 mln sgd in full year 1998. Mediaring, which develops and sells internet telephony technology, is 15. 0 pct owned by Creative Technology Ltd. ah/jb/zr AFN JXA22-12Nov99 03:00 GMT |
| (Post 5 of 3661) 11/12/1999.14:25:00 |
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MediaRing expects to reach 5.0 mln registered users target next year SINGAPORE (AFX-ASIA) - MediaRing.com, which launched its initial public offer today, expects to reach a target of 5.0 mln registered users next year, president Chua Kee Lock said. The company estimates that it has attracted about 1.6 mln registered users over the last 12 months. However, the company said in its prospectus that it will continue to experience negative cashflow as a result of losses from operations and capital expenditures for at least the next two years. The company has planned capital expenditures of about 3.6 mln sgd for the second half of 1999 and about 9.0 mln sgd for 2000. MediaRing's chief executive Ng Ede Phang said he expects the company to break even in the near future. The company said it has about 10.2 mln usd of revenue generating contracts which range from one to 24 months. "We see voice communication gradually becoming an integral part of the internet experience. By providing a wide range of no or low cost voice communication services, we believe we are poised to benefit from the growing Internet market," Ng said. Simon Parker, director at the IPO underwriter SG Securities, said the placement tranche has been fully subscribed. MediaRing, which is 15 pct owned by Creative Technology, develops and sells internet telephony technology. |
| (Post 6 of 3661) 11/13/1999.20:39:00 |
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I'm interested in this IPO as it is the 1st truly Internet company to be listed in Singapore. Although the company is still in the RED, it is the HOT stock among institutions. Currently, it has 1.6 million registered users and is expected to increase to 5 million registered users in one year time. Just day-dreaming.. is there any chance for it to be listed in Nasdaq.. hee Anyone interested in this stock too? |
| (Post 7 of 3661) 11/14/1999.00:18:00 |
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Candle/Wormbunny: Please accept my apologies at the outset for what I am about to say. Candle: This is not the place for such questions to be asked. Wormbunny: This is not the place for such things to be uttered. PLease enter into private communications should you feel it is necessary to take this matter any further. Oldman may like to confirm that he has no wish for this matter to proceed in his site. |
| (Post 8 of 3661) 11/14/1999.00:31:00 |
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Candle, suggest that in future, you detach yourself from posting anything on/about mediaring.com, since you are................... to avoid bias in your inputs. |
| (Post 9 of 3661) 11/14/1999.06:44:00 |
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Folks, I fully support Upjones and Edareka. It is best we stop this conversation. For feedback to Mediaring, it is best to communicate with Mediaring directly. As such, I have taken the liberty to delete the postings with regards to this conversation. |
| (Post 10 of 3661) 11/14/1999.07:33:00 |
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Hi, Oldman Sorry, I missed this conversation. Was it something that is on the border of legal implications? Just want to know the principles involved over the deletion of the postings. Thank you. |
| (Post 11 of 3661) 11/14/1999.07:53:00 |
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McCool, you are right. It is on the borderline and I am sure neither party meant it that way. That is why I took the liberty of deleting the postings. |
| (Post 12 of 3661) 11/14/1999.11:09:00 |
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Huh? I am really sorry, I can't remember what it is that I have written... :/ Anyway, I truely apologise, but do help me avoid the same mistake again. Legal Implications? Indeed, this is something I want to avoid. Once again, very sorry. |
| (Post 13 of 3661) 11/14/1999.14:11:00 |
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Wonder whether this IPO is going to be as HOT as i-one? One thing is for sure, their timing is definitely spot on. The mkt bullish & i-one's announcement of improving prospects & tech counters' surge. But my interest for internet stks is waning due to the barrage of internet IPOs everywhere...esp in US..everyone announcing that they are the next big thing. 'Experts' are predicting a major consolidation among internet co 2 yrs out, bcoz these companies may still be losing money big time & in the internet world...SIZE DOES MATTER!! Not quite sure abt mediaring.com's business model & how it is going to earn profits down the road but they are forecasting some large subscriber base increase to 5 million(eyeballs) which will bring in the revenue. Be careful of the volatile ride. |
| (Post 14 of 3661) 11/14/1999.14:21:00 |
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Will definitely subscribe for a stag! |
| (Post 15 of 3661) 11/14/1999.16:39:00 |
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Did not managed to read every mail before oldman delete most of it. Candle, as an employee of a going-to-be-listed company, it is best not to reveal anythings about your own company. Not that we(the investors) don't want to hear, but to avoid complications and landing yourself into any possible legal matters. Hope you understand. But I do like the way you have seek information on your company products from end-users. If every employee is so keen to do this type of customers service, it is sure to grow! That's a point added for me to invest in it. |
| (Post 16 of 3661) 11/15/1999.12:32:00 |
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This is a typical internet startup company, not making money but yet they have a niche technology and may evolve into the next Yahoo. It may not survive in the long run, but if it survives, it will be the pioneer in the web telephony industry. This is really a pure internet company, that lives and grow on the internet. Companies like i-one is simply a hype, and nothing else. Visit mediaring website, and look at their product. You have to decide if you buy into their idea, just like what other venture capitalist does. Just imagine if anyone has invested in AOL or Intel when they first go public, and hold on to it till now. I believe we are looking at the same kind of possible company for internet startup companies now. IMO, our future depends on such companies. We can never depend on MNC to come here and set up factories, or to depend on them to give us the sales orders. In times to come, even contract manufacturing may be turning to M'sia or Indonesia. We need technology companies that leverage our advantage on human brains and good infrastructure. That's why we have s-one and our government emphasis on knowledge economy. Investing in internet startup companies requires a different skill set, it requires one to understand the technology involved, as well as the general global technology trend. The traditional valuation method does not work very well for these companies. The risk involved is high, but the gains could be tremendous if you spot the gem. Subscribe to this IPO and hold on to it. This marks the beginning of the first local public listing of many to come internet startup. |
| (Post 17 of 3661) 11/17/1999.09:52:00 |
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Looks like the board will have Mr Richard Li, Mr Sim Wong Hoo & Mr Koh Boon Hwee. An internet company's biggest asset is its ppl. Looks kinda BIG to me. No wonder the Creative tech surge this morning. |
| (Post 18 of 3661) 11/17/1999.14:42:00 |
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OUTLOOK: MediaRing to list sharply higher on internet sentiment ---- by Jonathan Burgos ---- SINGAPORE (AFX-ASIA) - MediaRing.com Ltd is expected to trade sharply higher on its IPO price when it debuts Friday given the strong sentiment for internet-related and technology stocks, analysts said. Analysts have, however, recommended a 'stag' on the stock because MediaRing has been making losses since its inception and in common with most other internet-related companies is expected to continue in the red in the near future. MediaRing offered 150 mln new shares at 0.53 sgd through the IPO, which included a public tranche of 34.60 mln shares, a placement tranche of 110.80 mln and 4.60 mln reserved shares. Kim Eng Securities analyst Yuen May Abisheganaden said MediaRing could easily trade above 1.00 sgd on listing because of the strong sentiment for internet-related and technology stocks. She said she is recommending a 'stag' on the stock, however, because it is difficult to ascertain whether MediaRing will be among the internet-related companies that will succeed. "MediaRing has got a good product. It has a good chance to capture this emerging internet telephony market," she said. However, it is faced with intense competition from other internet telephony service providers and traditional telecommunications companies, she said. MediaRing provides free software that allows users to make free PC-to-PC telephone calls, while calls from a PC to telephone are charged at lower rates than those charged by telecommunications companies. The company generates advertising revenue from the website where the software is downloaded and calls are made. The company launched its product in Nov 1998 and started generating revenue from July this year. It made a net loss of 15.18 mln sgd in the nine months to September compared to a net loss of 5.72 mln sgd in full-year 1998. Fraser Securities analyst Ivan Goh said it will be difficult for MediaRing to grow its business because internet telephony is very competitive. "Traditional telecommunications companies are not going to surrender to this new technology. They can either reduce rates for their analogue telephone service or go into the same line of business," Goh said. Telecommunications companies have deep pockets that will give them an advantage over MediaRing and other internet telephony companies, he said. Goh said MediaRing's fair value is around 0.61 sgd, although he thinks the stock could easily run ahead of his conservative valuation because of prevailing strong interest in internet-related stocks. MediaRing is being offered at a price/sales ratio of 25.70 times on next year's prospective turnover. Its closest competitor Net2Phone is trading on Nasdaq at 29.60 times, he said. Goh said he expects MediaRing to incur a net loss of 16.0 mln sgd on sales of 2.60 mln sgd this year and a net loss of 23.10 mln on sales of 13.80 mln sgd next year. The bulk of MediaRing's sales will come from advertising revenue from key shareholders and Lycos Bertelsmann, which between them have agreed to purchase 10.20 mln usd worth of advertising over two years from September this year. Shareholders Creative Technology, Innomedia Pte Ltd, Hiltron Technology Inc, PCCW International Marketing and SiS Asia Pte Ltd account for 7.20 mln usd of the advertising contracts. Another 3.0 mln usd will come from an agreement with Lycos Bertelsmann to cross-advertise on each other's websites. An analyst with a local brokerage said there is a strong institutional interest in MediaRing. "It is unique. It is Singapore's first pure internet play." Judging from the success of recently-listed Net2Phone, which is another loss-making internet telephony company, MediaRing could easily trade above 1. 0 sgd upon listing, he said. The analyst said MediaRing has more active users than Net2Phone, although Net2Phone was established earlier. MediaRing currently has 1.60 mln registered users, of which 368,000 are active users as at September. In contrast, Net2Phone had only 260,000 active users as at June. MediaRing could further add to its subscriber base next year, following an agreement with Compaq Computer to pre-install the MediaRing software in Compaq PCs. The advertising agreement with Lycos should also bring in new subscribers, he said. The company said it expects registered users to reach 5.0 mln next year. Efforts to increase the subscriber base will entail higher spending on marketing and advertising,the analyst said. Goh of Fraser Securities, however, said MediaRing's advertising revenues should grow in tandem with the expected growth of advertising on the internet in the next few years. According to Forrester Research Inc, global internet advertising will grow from an estimated 3.0 bln usd in 1999 to 33.0 bln usd by 2004, of which 22.50 bln usd will come from the U.S. jb/dmb/bmm AFN KFK52-17Nov99 06:19 GMT AFX ; ASIA ; |
| (Post 19 of 3661) 11/18/1999.10:03:00 |
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Fraser-AMMB Research STAG: MediaRing Initial Public Offering - offer price MediaRing is being valued in terms of price to sales, using Net2Phone as a benchmark because it offers a similar service. Based on Net2Phone's fiscal year 2000 forecasted price to sales ratio of 29.6 times, MediaRing should be fairly valued at S$0.61. But it is likely that the share price will run ahead of the conservative valuation. |
| (Post 20 of 3661) 11/18/1999.13:43:00 |
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Anyone have info on the results of this IPO? |
| (Post 21 of 3661) 11/18/1999.17:42:00 |
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My dealer told me that Mediaring is trading in the grey mkt @1.55. He asked me whether i wanted i decline because one has to buy min. of 50 lots. Not dare to put so much money. Have a great Day |
| (Post 22 of 3661) 11/18/1999.18:16:00 |
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Singapore MediaRing IPO Retail Tranche Heavily Subscribed SINGAPORE (Dow Jones)--Singapore's MediaRing.com Ltd.'s initial public offering of 30 million shares to retail investors is 43 times subscribed, the company said Thursday. The company, a provider of voice communications technology for the Internet, offered a total of 150 million shares at 53 Singapore cents (US$1=S$1.667) each. Of the total IPO, 115.4 million of the IPO was set aside for institutional investors, while 4.6 million was reserved for employees and business associates. MediaRing said its IPO represents 22.4% of its enlarged share capital of 669.3 million shares. The shares are expected to begin trading on the Stock Exchange of Singapore's main board Friday. The company plans to raise S$75 million in net proceeds that will be used to fund working capital, marketing,investment, research and development and acquisitions. Creative Technology Ltd. (CREAF) owns MediaRing.com. |
| (Post 23 of 3661) 11/18/1999.18:56:00 |
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43 times subscibed is not as high as I expected. Was expecting at 150+ times for s'pore's 1st true internet stk. Maybe expectations are running too far ahead. |
| (Post 24 of 3661) 11/18/1999.20:05:00 |
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Guys, those who have Internet banking account with POSBank / DBS can check whether they got the IPO if they applied via ESA. I kena 2 lots. Haven't checked my wife's one yet. |
| (Post 25 of 3661) 11/18/1999.20:10:00 |
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I applied for lot (hehe, don't laugh, I normally subscribe 100 lots, but this time more conservative, coz it is a $ losing company) and got 1 lot:-) Will sell it, if it jumps to $.80-1.0:-) |
| (Post 26 of 3661) 11/18/1999.20:13:00 |
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You are lucky. I did not get any ! Good luck tomorrow as I can only look on enviously. |
| (Post 27 of 3661) 11/18/1999.20:15:00 |
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Wife also kena 2 lots. |
| (Post 28 of 3661) 11/18/1999.20:16:00 |
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Didn't get any, never mind - play on your I-One. I also never get, will be playing on EastPub. |
| (Post 29 of 3661) 11/18/1999.21:06:00 |
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I kena 1 lot and my wife also kena 1 lot. Wish all good luck. :) |
| (Post 30 of 3661) 11/18/1999.21:27:00 |
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NOOOOOO !!!!! Number 16 times no IPO !!! Sorry, no other place I find this most appropriate to dump my frustration.... NOOOOOOO !!!!! If tomorrow did not kenna SFI, then I really give up on IPO liao... Oldman, I think I need to find a better nick this time ... |
| (Post 31 of 3661) 11/18/1999.21:38:00 |
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I have confidence in this company. Just spoken to some houses, it is an institutional play with many US funds taking a stake. But I am even more impressed by the management and the guys behind the company. Whether it is Koh, Sim or Richard lee and also their Ivy League educated directors, no companies can match this company. Look at the rocket performance of Net2Phone.com on NASDAQ... there is more to expect from a 80 million dollar float. If sham like I-One can fetch 300 million mkt cap, why can't the true net stock reach $1.20? I will be surprised and may think of accumulating if it fails to hit 1.00 tomorrow. Cheers!! My deemed int: 10 lots. |
| (Post 32 of 3661) 11/18/1999.23:33:00 |
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Silverbullet: by simple maths the more you miss the higher chance of u getting the next one.. e.g. prob of each miss = 0.9 vs 0.1 for a success (draw 1 in 10) 16 misses mean the prob of your next time success = 1-(0.9)^16 = 81.4% chance |
| (Post 33 of 3661) 11/19/1999.00:32:00 |
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Hi Freeier, Hang on a second......I thought that each event is independent! |
| (Post 34 of 3661) 11/19/1999.00:33:00 |
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Wah. Very chim. Not understand possibility ... I was hoping to jump start with Mediaring by IPO, but looks like buying from open market |
| (Post 35 of 3661) 11/19/1999.01:10:00 |
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34.6 million shares to the public is kinda few, which will cause upward pressure on the stk price. Maybe the turnover vol itself will be more than that. Saying that, there will also be many stags out in the mkt. s'pore retail investors more down-to-earth, bird in hand is worth 2 in bush. Profits may be taken quickly. Watever u think of the stk & how overvalued it is, DUN SHORT this...there is no predicting where the top is. Fundamentals will not be significant tomolo. |
| (Post 36 of 3661) 11/19/1999.06:59:00 |
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Freeier: NEVER NEVER step into a Casino! The laws of probability do NOT work that way! |
| (Post 37 of 3661) 11/19/1999.08:43:00 |
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Kind_Doc, Disagree with u on that.. the law of probability will prob work esp if u playing red black, but the law of unlimited supply of ammo doesn't work so by calculation of expected 'stake' required the answer comes to infinity, which is what hinders ppl.. 8-) Dsea, err.. i think u mistook.. if they are not independent, then the probability of subsequent success after each time u fail will be different, which isn't the case... so what u were trying to say was it is 'heuristic' (i think that's the word, meaning "memoryless" property of independent event happening one after another).. Silverbullet, End of day what i was trying to say was, apply each IPO at its own merit and forget about whether u have gotten it in the last 10 or 20 tries.. 8-) Think i went one big round talking about something simple.. that's the fun part of this forum.. |
| (Post 38 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:23:00 |
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MediaRing...reminds me of I-One on its debut day! Highly speculative... Think twice before buying... |
| (Post 39 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:28:00 |
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am removing it from my watch list ... "blinking" like xmas lights, cannot concentrate on other stock movement ... *stoNed* ... hehehe* |
| (Post 40 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:30:00 |
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Haha, Target: $.80-1.0, but sold at $1.78. Won $1226 for just 1 lot. Sad , forget to check the price immediately after 9am and missed $1.99-$2.0 run:-) |
| (Post 41 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:31:00 |
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MediaRing.com Agree, highly speculative. If you have from the IPO, sell Remember i-one.net? Stockbroking firm trying to cook it high to sell to you. |
| (Post 42 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:45:00 |
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Managed to sell all 5 lots through IPO at 1.80 .Actually call up broker 1 min before market opens and hang on the phone with him. Pays to be kiasu in this market. |
| (Post 43 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:52:00 |
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Cheryllee Well done. You made the right choice. |
| (Post 44 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:57:00 |
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STOCKWATCH: MediaRing sharply higher vs IPO on internet interest SINGAPORE (AFX-ASIA) - MediaRing.com shares were sharply higher compared to its IPO price in early morning trade amid strong interest in internet-related and technology stocks, dealers said. MediaRing sold 150 mln new shares at 0.53 sgd through the IPO, which comprised a public tranche of 30 mln shares, a placement tranche of 115.40 mln shares and 4.60 mln reserved shares. At 9:40 am, MediaRing was trading at 1.63 sgd, off a high of 2.0 sgd, on top volume of 37.70 mln shares. The Straits Times index was up 13.87 points at 2,217.53. An analyst with a regional brokerage said continuing record gains on Nasdaq has set the tone for strong opening trading in MediaRing, which is Singapore's first internet play. "There is no fundamental spin to this. It's sentiment driven," he said. He said the stock is now trading at close to 100 times its sale price, ahead of Nasdaq-listed competitor Net2Phone, which is trading at around 30 times price to sales. Dealers said the stock has come down fast after a strong opening, which saw the shares hit a high of 2.0 sgd, on profit taking. The analyst said one of the biggest beneficiaries of the strong performance of MediaRing is Creative Technology, which holds a 15 pct stake in the company. He said he estimates Creative Technology's stake in MediaRing to be around 180 mln sgd based on the current market price. According to MediaRing's prospectus, Creative Technology unit CTI Ltd, Temasek Holdings unit Coraltree Investments, Hiltron Technology and two units of Pacific Cyberworks jointly invested 56.40 mln sgd in MediaRing in September. Creative was down 0.70 at 25.80 on 68,000 shares. more |
| (Post 45 of 3661) 11/19/1999.09:59:00 |
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Hmmm... was busy this morning, lost the chance to sell. Now at about $1.60. Guess I'll just hang on to it for a while. Sell target: 2 bucks. If it hits 1.20 I might accumulate. Mezz who shorted at 1.80 must be very happy. |
| (Post 46 of 3661) 11/19/1999.10:03:00 |
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Or maybe I'll sell at 4.45 pm when all the shorties are covering. Hope this doesn't turn out to be another GAR... |
| (Post 47 of 3661) 11/19/1999.10:05:00 |
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Those who got it in the IPO must be laughing all the way to the bank now!! Poor me, got nothing.. ; ( Anyway, morning hype is over. I am so bold as to predict that MER will finish the day around 1.00 - 1.20 (still a almost 90% profit for lucky people who got it in the IPO). |
| (Post 48 of 3661) 11/19/1999.10:08:00 |
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Superbullisback, Thanks to the people in this forum advising to stag Mediaring as well as the constant reminder of I-One. BTW, can buy PCI or not? current price at 1.04. Seems to be dropping. |
| (Post 49 of 3661) 11/19/1999.10:19:00 |
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I think the share price will take a further beating in the early afternoon when the rest of the crowd start selling .... |
| (Post 50 of 3661) 11/19/1999.10:24:00 |
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To all Stockbrokers Stop cooking MediaRing.com. Stop saying it worths $5.00. May be i can sell to you @ $4.00? You can pay me 1 year later than. How's the deal? Many have been trick by you. Remember i-one.net? MediaRing.com is still an lose making company. |
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