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(Post 1 of 1771) 11/27/2002.21:48:31 |
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looks like i am the first person here. would anyone like to tell me what are the upside and downside risk of this counter? |
| (Post 2 of 1771) 11/27/2002.21:49:39 |
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also how many shares will the public get? and at what price?
when will it be trading and what is the p.e. |
| (Post 3 of 1771) 11/27/2002.21:51:28 |
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what kind of product are they offering? is there a market for their products in singapore?
who is the lead manager and who is the underwriter? |
| (Post 4 of 1771) 11/27/2002.22:00:47 |
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hi to what i know they are dealing with some form of security products of the video surveillance.
i think not wrong its SBI-E2 is doing this IPO |
| (Post 5 of 1771) 11/27/2002.22:15:13 |
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yep, i have been looking forward to this IPO cos what i heard is that this company has good prospects.
dealing with such an highly resourcful equipment in such a times will bring benefits to the company especially when we have talks focusing on security welfare that means this company products will really sell all over the world.  |
| (Post 6 of 1771) 11/27/2002.22:20:53 |
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from the OPERA, its underwriter is UOB Kay Hian and Bank of East Asia.
you1 u can check in more details from the masnet. it really tells alot of the company from there u can know the background of the company. |
| (Post 7 of 1771) 11/27/2002.22:40:48 |
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ok finally multivision has its own forum. Looking forward to having some view and comments on this darling 
i know it deals with some digital camera stuffs but as shabi suggested i tried looking it up in the masnet OPERA but cant seem to open the file eventhough i got adobe reader. so if anyone out there can help pls fill me in on this stock can..... 
thanks  |
| (Post 8 of 1771) 11/27/2002.23:23:56 |
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wow, another ipo again. tody TR NETWORK opened very strong so those successful IPO appliants laughing all the way to the bank. but not tech stock, so may be not so hot.
so is MULTIVISION consider tech stock ? don't look like i think. now the whole world is so afraid of terrorists and talking about enhancing security measures and systems, this IPO come at the right time. any comparable companies listed in sing or other markets or not ? can any one name some names to share ? when will launch ? how many shares ? can make $ or not ? like TR Network ? |
| (Post 9 of 1771) 11/27/2002.23:29:57 |
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real or not ? i see the preliminary prospectus, the results for first 4 mths up to july 2002 is a net profit of HK$6.56m, almost 6x that of the whole of last fy. if just extrapolate, fy2002 should make 15x of whole of last fy, ie hk$15m. too good to be true but if it is true, this means the stock must apply. |
| (Post 10 of 1771) 11/27/2002.23:39:57 |
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GOOD START for TR network so like i said the rest will follow thru'.....even if you sell at closing its still in the money that what we called a successful launched!
yes i think likewise too kakimoto, now that pple are talking abt terrorists this product does sells cos like what u said enhancing security! and its abt video and surveilliance systems so sure sell one! it will be best sold in tight and sensitive areas or even in the shopping malls when they upgrade! So u see it has already a line of end-users ready to make it useful!
will look out and inform you if i get any details! |
| (Post 11 of 1771) 11/27/2002.23:47:43 |
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DEFINITELY TRUE......TR performance was good but that becos first IPO but do you think that this MULTIVISION too can?
I not sure but looking at the way IPO hotting up!! I think anyone that sounds attractive and has shown good results we must try and not let this opportunity slip away...a good chance to have a MERRY XMAS!
from the forum you guys seems very supportive of this MV. why? cos its into close scrutiny of surroundings is it? So based on this you guys think the products can sell?? |
| (Post 12 of 1771) 11/28/2002.00:03:54 |
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does anybody know whether their products are installed in sing ? if yes, where ? which building or what premises ? |
| (Post 13 of 1771) 11/28/2002.07:45:49 |
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US seems to be on a recovery mode, with all the data better than expected, it prove to be that all these IPO just had the right timing, looking at last night DJ n Nasdaq....today another run for mkt.
i think this stock will generate much interest from companies as well as investors- maybe a short term to middle term play. And based on its product it will sell. |
| (Post 14 of 1771) 11/28/2002.09:36:46 |
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Nilaichai,
I have read briefly abt them in masnet and read something like ATMs which is supplied by NCR worldwide. So i think spore ATMs are supplied by NCR so indirectly there is usage here. from what i know their main biz lies with commercials and govt applications. |
| (Post 15 of 1771) 11/28/2002.09:53:27 |
| (Post 16 of 1771) 11/28/2002.10:16:10 |
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whether in US or in China i think the use of security surevillance systems has its advantages.
in terms of commericals, their products are used in homes to monitor the elderly and young and sometimes on the newly employed maid! all for safety reasons. in the tight security dept. like they use CCTV in the HK customs and excise and airport as such.....may prove sometimes to be useful! |
| (Post 17 of 1771) 11/28/2002.10:41:19 |
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My broker attended the roadshow and told me Multivision only deal with big infrastructure contracts e.g. Hong Kong Chep Lak Kok Airport surveillance was designed and installed by them |
| (Post 18 of 1771) 11/28/2002.11:11:22 |
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they also supply to residential like using in the homes to track movements of the loved ones at home.
believe that many wld have seen the advertisment which a son's mother fake a faint that was captured by her son's cam in office in order to have him back for a dinner!!
i think their products is something like that. as terrier too has said that they supply to NCR for ATM. but if deal with big infrastructure has its advantages right cos more revenue and turnover! this benefits the company and can make more money and then we too can make money. |
| (Post 19 of 1771) 11/28/2002.13:12:32 |
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I think MV selling point not only provide the security it also provide cost saving to whoever using their system. I was told that surveillance system they use is in digital form intead of analog. my broker told me that during the roadshow, the company mentioned that they can compress all the data received to a disk (equal to many vedio types n centralised the surveillance centre)instead of vedio type. This will translet to a big saving in costs. imanging, if macau casions which their talking to finally agree to use MV system, that will represent a big contract to MV and great saving for all the casinos in macau. Prospect look good as more users will use MV products for costs saving and get better result.
Maybe SMRT and LRT should use MV system, so tt the Bishen MRT incident will solve immediately and the constand breakdown of Bukit Panjang LRT system and track according. Hey good contracts for MV. |
| (Post 20 of 1771) 11/28/2002.14:29:56 |
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i find that the surveillance cameras installed will give the public a breathing space as the terror attacks are coming too close for comfort
bali bombing, foiled planned attack in singapore, all this instill a fear in us. just imagine if we have security cameras everywhere and can capture images so clear and concise, we can at least know that we are being looked after. i do not want to wake up one day and find myself in the middle of a bombing incident right in our city. god bless us for our safety. |
| (Post 21 of 1771) 11/28/2002.23:30:39 |
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think the mkt should like this stock, especially after 911 and Bali bomb blast. should see good sales in asia regions, like HK, SING, Malaysia, Indonesia. |
| (Post 22 of 1771) 11/28/2002.23:46:52 |
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how come newspaper never report on this company ? most cos get exposure before IPO but this co seems quiet till now. is barrier of entry to this industry high ? who are the competitors ? in singapore ? |
| (Post 23 of 1771) 11/28/2002.23:55:37 |
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guess epic is their competitor for the home market while cisco and other big firms dealing in commercial security would be their competitor in this sector.
this company comes from hongkong so we are not so sure abt their activities in singapore and should be known once the mas approves their listing. guess this is called the calm before the storm(eh i mean boom) |
| (Post 24 of 1771) 11/29/2002.00:54:22 |
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hello hello, it is me again....so pple out there going to bomb me again???? this time use REAL bomb hor....then, biz for Multivision will go up and up!!! hahahaha!!! if really like that hor, more bombing more biz for them lah!?!?!
ok, again, i did my homework and read the prospectus on the mas website.....their biz is not on retail biz lah! if i understand correctly, they got 3 biz namely the netserver, netcorder diy and unet client workstation which the called it ncw...... the lowest turnover is that netcorder diy which i think is comparable to the epic....if so, that epic is not their competitor......epic like can act as the Qu Mei Feng thing leh....
actually, this biz quite interesting leh.......surveillance system....what a time to list when the whole world is so concerned abt security....must say, it is a very interesting stock. any body dont agree and want to wack me???? okie lah, that all first.....nowadays, prospectus ALL so thick.....so much to read.....like investors really interested to read so much....dont know why they have to write so long...... |
| (Post 25 of 1771) 11/29/2002.15:40:51 |
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not too worry that pple will whack u lah.... this is a forum we are open to our views right??
as long as we dont insult anyone it ok lah. wld expect this company to be attracting many pple cos the theme of the MV is on security so at this point of time its very impt and their timing is perfecto! has been used in many places of high security....shows that they have already est. themselves in these area. |
| (Post 26 of 1771) 11/29/2002.15:52:09 |
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if all those using analog now changes to digital.........then can u imagine the big biz orders that they will get??
wha a lot of money to be earned. and they are talking abt expansion into the PRC and North America and Europe. this if were to go far i cannot imagine how much they can increase in their revenue |
| (Post 27 of 1771) 11/29/2002.17:28:26 |
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shabi, you are right. technology is getting more and more sophicated these days and if you are not careful, it would be obsolete in 3 months. what a way to go.
just yesterday, it used to be the rage for just analog but today it is digital. wonder what would come next? but before that, i guess someone is going to make a lot of money. i wish i have the brains to invent some new technology and then sell it to someone who would be interested and then retire. |
| (Post 28 of 1771) 11/29/2002.22:36:40 |
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er!!!! may i ask when this counter would be listed as i understand that most of the ipo's would be about the same time.
curious cause heard from broker that can try at atm when this counter comes out. have to get money ready please let me know okay???? thanks |
| (Post 29 of 1771) 11/29/2002.22:47:56 |
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usually 2 weeks after preliminary prospectus is lodged, the co can start the IPO launch. Multivision lodged the prelim prospectus on 12/11, so can expect it to start launch around next week. |
| (Post 30 of 1771) 11/29/2002.22:59:09 |
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according to road side sources, they say this stock has captured the attention of many institutional investors, especially those based in HK. some big names ang moh funds want to have big chuck of the IPO but was turned down because singapore IPO must follow the rules. it was said that nobody want another Dayen to happen. so even no matter how much some of these fund managers love the stock, one can have only some shares. may be better this way, at least we know the share price would be able to hold above IPO price after trading starts. so don't miss the boat. |
| (Post 31 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:03:45 |
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hey, samsudin, your info reliable or not ? everytime new IPO people always say how good, how good. but the share price performed for 2-3 days and then after that die. u think this one can go up ? |
| (Post 32 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:11:03 |
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no NEED another DAYEN...follow CITIRAYA steady and everybody makes!!! |
| (Post 33 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:19:22 |
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Hope another tr nets |
| (Post 34 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:19:50 |
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maybe will try ipo and dispose to punters |
| (Post 35 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:20:21 |
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if the stock can do like CITIRAYA, then must buy when trading starts. CITIRAYA more than doubles after trading starts. so if this one also like that, there comes the $$$ for Christmas shopping and party.... yip pee..... |
| (Post 36 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:22:21 |
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if really good fundamental for long term, then don't mind holding for the long term. |
| (Post 37 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:23:00 |
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samsudin is the one who promoted TR nets, say what in grey market tr nets sold at 35 cts
think many iPOs employ him to promote
can buy iPO but must dispose at 8:59:00 hrs |
| (Post 38 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:24:20 |
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mi going for 500 lots and dispose them in grey market  |
| (Post 39 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:38:55 |
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samdusin can promote the stock, u can demote the stock. samsudin says things, things may or may not happen. always invest with your eyes open. first lesson from the stock market, $$ never come to you freely, u have to earn it. so do your own research. |
| (Post 40 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:42:46 |
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aiyah, don't have to trade big. go to ATM and apply for 10k, if get 1 or 2 lots, can make some $ very good ready. why play so big ? very stressful and if lose $, very heartache u know. |
| (Post 41 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:42:51 |
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Bbt, still wanna him to promote lah, if not if i allocated 500 lots , who to dispose to???
samsudin is not wrong what, still can sell 30 cts early... losers are just the gongkias |
| (Post 42 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:44:05 |
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gigi, can try 500 lots, but must sell early!!! |
| (Post 43 of 1771) 11/29/2002.23:45:58 |
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so many stocks IPO damn garang, just buy and sell fast
never hold an IPO stocks ,75% chance u will lose |
| (Post 44 of 1771) 11/30/2002.00:06:20 |
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Ali, u think m1 ipo will hit 1.40 on opening ?? |
| (Post 45 of 1771) 11/30/2002.00:12:42 |
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1.50 oso not a problem, but can sustain or not, i dun know |
| (Post 46 of 1771) 11/30/2002.00:14:55 |
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aligator, u very rich or u boasting, 500 lots, a lot of $ u know ?
i small player, the most apply 10k at atm already so scared. 500 lots, u want me to die uh? |
| (Post 47 of 1771) 11/30/2002.00:18:40 |
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m1 ipo - discounted 1.25, retail 1.32, wow 7 cts ?? |
| (Post 48 of 1771) 11/30/2002.00:25:52 |
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u knw ? although some people comment it expensive, but dunno why still went ahead to ATMs and bid, they must have a lot of cash in bank accounts. Strange, maybe this is the charm of IPO.
Are all IPOs like that ?? |
| (Post 49 of 1771) 11/30/2002.00:37:23 |
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terrorist attacks on Israelis in Kenya ..... hmmmm ......does this equate to more awareness on security system, i.e. more demand for Multivision???  |
| (Post 50 of 1771) 11/30/2002.12:43:35 |
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looks like pple here not very FOCUS!!
why u all talking abt M1 here??
wrong IPO! As for M1 can forget it lah are they a comparsion of MV?? we are talking abt security here not securities u know and not much growth in for M1 cos just another singtel! |
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