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(Post 1351 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:17:02 |
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STB,
Not harami but engulfing? Then this is the start of 33.3% retracment is it?  |
| (Post 1352 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:17:53 |
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Spurs and zombie sans 
Any time of the day is my sans miguel time. Tiger time is only for special occasions at the tavern! 
Sparetyre san, you belong to the special forces looking at the moon and stars to launch your raids?! So time to lari kuat kuat? Me happy always one, whether harami or hatami or khatami.  |
| (Post 1353 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:18:21 |
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PCB |
| (Post 1354 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:18:27 |
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STB, bear cute mah 
Spurs, I thing people in SI.com is a rich source of information for you to do a thesis on Behavioural Finance. You can test all the hypothesis of their thoughts here based on the seperation thoerem and indifference functions |
| (Post 1355 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:21:28 |
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Today, many opportunistic shorts joined in the fray...
Tomorrow the market cheong again due to good news and those who sold in panic will lugi ah |
| (Post 1356 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:22:17 |
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Zombie....
You jumped out of Sun Spring Spa already? |
| (Post 1357 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:26:08 |
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Spurs, I do not short but I like to catch those kateks |
| (Post 1358 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:31:05 |
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FM,
I am toying with that idea seriously. Oldman archives most of the postings here, so it may turn out to be rich vein of information for me to do my thesis. By the way, I need to ask you for your opinion in a question which has stumped me. I was asked to select 1 stock from a basket of 3 to buy (MBA question). The metrics given to me was: 1. Dividend payout ratio 2. EPS (for the last 3 years) 3. Beta 4. Long-term growth rate 5. Risk Free Rate 6. Market price The idea of choosing stocks should be based on the premise of selecting the most undervalued stock. And the value of an undervalued stock should be based on the expectations of future capital or dividend payout growth. So, in this instance, do I just use Gordon's Growth Model or CAPM to calculate the expected share price and compare, vis-a-vis, with the existing market price? Thanks! |
| (Post 1359 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:32:33 |
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Friedman, you take holiday can still make eh . Was checking with TBC on wave count last night. Looks like wave v is done. What next is still fuzzy. What do you see ahead?
Lucky me...took some profit off the table. SembLog still a si bei si...stuck in a descending triangle...looks like stuck in mud to me . |
| (Post 1360 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:34:28 |
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the cover back by shortist will be furious later...STI uptrend still intact at wave 1600-1680...buy on dip |
| (Post 1361 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:39:07 |
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Gainers 82
Losers 292 |
| (Post 1362 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:41:17 |
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Of course profit-taking is to be expected after many days of run-up.
But the uptrend is intact and new players will come in to take over, while the others rotate to other counters lah  |
| (Post 1363 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:41:43 |
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Is this an adjustment / correction / OR retracement.... back down to 1550? Anyone care to comment? |
| (Post 1364 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:43:11 |
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zombie - all ang ang |
| (Post 1365 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:44:06 |
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| (Post 1366 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:44:46 |
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Hello Spurs,
The Gordon Growth model will be more appropriate as such valuation methods consider Dividend payout ratio, EPS and long term growth rate. The expected returns also factor in beta and Risk free rate. There are too many assumptions underlying CAPM and such leakages may give rise to high statistical errors in determine fair values. However, theorethical fair value and market price is best not to conclude base on 1 valuation method. Perhaps your conclusion should be derived from the direct comparison of 2 models and argue based on the level of errors |
| (Post 1367 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:47:18 |
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Ang Ang = buy opportunities
Qi qi = sell opportunities
Caution: Dun buy at beginning of Ang ... wait Has it got anything to do with the Ang shirt worn by lao Goh on Sunday? |
| (Post 1368 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:54:12 |
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Ang or Qi... can buy during these times |
| (Post 1369 of 15224) 08/19/2003.16:55:43 |
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Mephisto, you are good, should have listened to you yesterday and hoot 1000 lots of NOL. |
| (Post 1370 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:05:15 |
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At 12.53PM I warned - but few heeded my call and got burnt. Market will trend lower for a week now in my opinion and many will cut loss as their profits becomes losses and others will be forced sold in T +2 - SEE MY EARLIER COMMENT BELOW...
Telford 19 Aug 2003 12:53pm [ Station User ] Posting #1316 Viewing #1316 of 1370 Index Value : 1632.84 Friedman is correct I am afraid - if the "STI fails to stand on 1633 on the 5th attempts today" then will be a major correction and in turn many will be caught unable to pick up - the days of forced selling may then return. It may seem an unrealistically negative prediction but my advice is to sell into strength and stay out. Let the rest then do the panicing for you as the market is rather over-extended. You may be able to buy back most shares much cheaper next week. Let's see. |
| (Post 1371 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:07:35 |
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Jonnyned, where was the furious buying by shortist later? STI closed so near to day low you know.
I lost count of your missed calls already
Johnnyned 19 Aug 2003 04:34pm [ Premium User ] Posting #1361 Viewing #1361 of 1371 Index Value : 1618.45 [ Bookmark ] [ Reply ] the cover back by shortist will be furious later...STI uptrend still intact at wave 1600-1680...buy on dip |
| (Post 1372 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:09:13 |
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Telford, I like those see longists who want the shortist to be in pain, in pain |
| (Post 1373 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:09:58 |
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Bye Bye all!
I go tuang liao!
done taking some $$$ off the table... |
| (Post 1374 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:11:28 |
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US Future not so good...looks like tomorrow will be another down day. |
| (Post 1375 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:34:16 |
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no worries - we are no prophets. Tomorrow maybe will be a better day. Cheers |
| (Post 1376 of 15224) 08/19/2003.17:56:14 |
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As long as everybody is happy. I know I am  |
| (Post 1377 of 15224) 08/19/2003.18:12:01 |
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Tomorrow the GOATs will be separated from the LAMBs  |
| (Post 1378 of 15224) 08/19/2003.19:03:53 |
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Aiya, today's drop is very mild considering how much market has run since the Jakarta bombing only 2 weeks ago. |
| (Post 1379 of 15224) 08/19/2003.20:20:25 |
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Mep, everyone is scared. Some even called for 30% retracement... dun want why suddenly everyone turn jittery. |
| (Post 1380 of 15224) 08/19/2003.21:51:31 |
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Penny stocks heading for major correction. Longs have to scamper for cover now that Shortists gonna pounce on them.
Tread and trade with care. |
| (Post 1381 of 15224) 08/19/2003.21:57:57 |
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Some problem with the SESDAQ Index again?? 
Got something to do with seventh month?? But the last time it gave problem was on 28th July?? 
Funny thing is that both occasions happened on Monday?? 
Can we really trust the reading now??  |
| (Post 1382 of 15224) 08/19/2003.23:02:34 |
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Real Confusion in Sesdaq index
Maybe after next thursday everything will be back to normal |
| (Post 1383 of 15224) 08/19/2003.23:20:08 |
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Real disappointed with the market today....too many engulfing pattern....was out for the whole day and did not cut loss....Sian...  |
| (Post 1384 of 15224) 08/19/2003.23:31:40 |
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No wonder my place so noisy today!!!
DJ Singapore Air Force Fighter Jets Intercept Civilian Plane 19 August 2003, 22:16 SINGAPORE (AP)--Two fighters from the Singapore Air Force scrambled to force a small civilian plane to land over fears the pilot was launching a terror strike after the air traffic control officers lost communication with the aircraft, Singapore's Ministry of Defense said Tuesday. |
| (Post 1385 of 15224) 08/20/2003.10:57:58 |
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The morning STI at 1612, - 3pts, is in a precarious stage and is quite overbgt with the RSI and MACD showing signs of weakness.
If breaks below 1600 may consolidate around 1550-1580. The 1st half reporting season is mostly out and nothing new to excite for the time being. Those over kungho may have to pay the price for over exhuberance, esp with 1 to 5 cents par new ipo infants. Furthermore, the penny stocks have overshot decent valuation. |
| (Post 1386 of 15224) 08/20/2003.14:36:19 |
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1600 looks very weak.....
1580 is the next support...could use it for short term bargin hunting. |
| (Post 1387 of 15224) 08/20/2003.14:39:05 |
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So many copy cats again |
| (Post 1388 of 15224) 08/20/2003.14:54:28 |
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Fm
spare a thought for all posting here... U may be right some of the time, maybe right most of the time.. but can u be right all the time..... if yes u must be bigger than BUFFET.
I hope one of this days u be bigger than buffet ok, inthe mean time polish your skills here. to be keener and keener.. ie from 3 sigma to 4 sigma to 5 sigma and to zillion sigma accuracy... |
| (Post 1389 of 15224) 08/20/2003.14:59:48 |
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Cyberian
err...sigma must be smaller than better lah |
| (Post 1390 of 15224) 08/20/2003.15:17:10 |
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FM
Sigma= standard deviation.. 6 sigma quality?? have u heard of it.. This is champioed by MOTOROLA for quality ie 6 defects per billion.. Recently there are courses leading to .. now hear this.. BLACK BELT ON QUALITY.. dont ask me dont know anything about this.. ASK MOTOROLA IF U WANT TO KNOW MORE.
IE if your accuracy is 6 sigma, what this mean is that u only make 6 mistakes out of a billion |
| (Post 1391 of 15224) 08/20/2003.15:53:50 |
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U.S. FUTURES & MARKETS INDICATORS
Sep 2003 Change Price Last updated S&P 500† -2.90 1000.00 8/20 3:38 Fair Value 1001.74 8/19 19:09 Difference * -1.74 8/19 19:09 Sep 2003 Change Price Last updated NASDAQ† -7.00 1295.50 8/20 3:38 Fair Value 1300.72 8/19 19:09 Difference * -5.22 8/19 19:09 Sep 2003 Change Price Last updated DOW JONES† -32.00 9390.00 8/20 3:37 DJIA contracts |
| (Post 1392 of 15224) 08/20/2003.16:01:15 |
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Ah European market open now.... let's see whether our STI slip somemore...
US Future is getting more red man...hmmn |
| (Post 1393 of 15224) 08/20/2003.16:38:41 |
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Mephisto, what is your buy price for SUNW and what price do you intend to sell? Care to share? |
| (Post 1394 of 15224) 08/20/2003.16:41:01 |
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7738ok, how is your trade so far, me suffered a bit of "black eye" already and now don't even have money to pick up.... sigh.... |
| (Post 1395 of 15224) 08/20/2003.16:48:29 |
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I'm lucky. Picked Swing Media at the right price and ride up.... took some profit, so net wise still make $$$. Have learnt not to be greedy and focus on fundamental. |
| (Post 1396 of 15224) 08/20/2003.22:48:34 |
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As long as the STI stays above 1600pts, there will be plays on tech pennies and other situational counters 
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| (Post 1397 of 15224) 08/20/2003.22:55:08 |
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1600 is just a psychological level of no technical inference
It is not about where it is now. It is about where it is heading |
| (Post 1398 of 15224) 08/20/2003.22:57:41 |
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Friedman, we shall see
As long as the STI stays above 1600pts, there will be plays on tech pennies and other situational counters
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| (Post 1399 of 15224) 08/20/2003.22:59:40 |
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Zombie, no need to see. Probably you can't see. Let the force sales in the next 1 week greet you
Which stock(s) you holding? Let me see can short or not. I am starting to have the fetish of taking money from you |
| (Post 1400 of 15224) 08/20/2003.23:03:58 |
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Hey Guys,
be careful hor..... STI likely to break 1600 tomorrow.. |
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