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(Post 4151 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:19:39
Author :
Johnnyned
think market will still rally for few days due to GDP report...so still can make money out of it...after that most likely will drop below 1680 then 1630 under worst case...buy low sell high...and still can make lots of money...just see the panic selling and panic short covering for past few days

(Post 4152 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:30:24
Author :
Merson
7738ok, My Lau Ta says don't tell ppl who is the Lau Ta Somtimes when he asked to see me also asked the driver to blindfold me then go to his place also don't know where he stays

(Post 4153 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:32:16
Author :
Johnnyned
any news on BIL AGM??? at 2:30 pm in Fullerton

(Post 4154 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:39:56
Author :
Merson
7738ok, Seriously u probably think that I am kidding u but just for example this afternoon he tells me to queue NOL at 2.07 and thereafter would rebound and can get kopi money on Monday or else to average down to long and I listen to him see so far he's right again Of course, he does not go round telling ppl anything and for me because I'm his Ka Kia

(Post 4155 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:40:33
Author :
7738ok
Merson, your from "black society" ah?! Blindfold some more

Merson San, can share your view on them market outlook? Any particular stock you think is still worth the salt? I scan through and find that all are pretty high PE.

(Post 4156 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:41:08
Author :
Leeeta
Johnnyned, you must have shorted a lot - you sound and talk like a doomsayer when SB, citi and Golman Sachs are saying that there is more upside...What is your agenda?

(Post 4157 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:43:27
Author :
Balar
Mmmm.... so our Lau Ta is not the same guy, my Lau Ta when want to see me, he will blindfold himself and ask his driver to bring him to see me.hehehehehe

(Post 4158 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:44:41
Author :
Joeyuen
Time to pick up bargains for next week's gain!


(Post 4159 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:47:44
Author :
Merson
7738ok, No lah, not what 'black society' Singapore now very safe even now one goes drinking hv to park the car one mile away caused scared terrorist attack. Why Mata thinks ahead of terrorists what and what's 'black society' vis-a-vis terrorists?
He just don't like ppl to know where he stays or how to contact him but he wants to know yr I mean my whereabt at any point in time. He's so well know that if I say his name backwards also u would know who he's

(Post 4160 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:49:59
Author :
7738ok
Balar san, u lagi better Lau Ta come and see u some more... u more Snr than Lau Ta

(Post 4161 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:54:43
Author :
Merson
Balar, U good man. This morning u said Norelco and this counter comes alive. But, Balar u also good man yr Lau Ta comes to see u whilst I had to go and see mine But, todate he has been giving me free 'lunch' and for dinner I just had to wait a little longer

(Post 4162 of 15224)   11/14/2003.16:56:22
Author :
Jamesl
but balar also said norelco good at 130+ before crash to 1.05

(Post 4163 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:04:10
Author :
Balar
This one Pai Sei la, I also "lau chin Quar", heard some deal is going on involving some stake selling to one big US giant. let's see. this one need to hold. up and down like that. me Lau Ren Jia buay tahan.

(Post 4164 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:04:12
Author :
Johnnyned
buy on GDP news for rally...good luck

(Post 4165 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:09:41
Author :
Drrajeshrai
Balar how you got news on Chuan Hup or no??

(Post 4166 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:12:29
Author :
7738ok
STI under controlled by big players. Want it to stay above 1730, it surge above in the last 5 min... the 5min that SGX implemented was to reduce manipulation and still they manage to do so. Buay Wei gong

(Post 4167 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:14:59
Author :
Merson
7738ok, Do look at NOL but must long caused after share placement (usual when counter asked for monies mkt don't like but time to buy) with lesser debt helps in earnings and also freight increases also help. This is not a 2.10 share in next 6-mths should easily go beyond 3.00 not foresee any adverse circumstances

(Post 4168 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:16:49
Author :
Balar
Dr.
No news but was told to buy son and not mother by their competitor, basically all the marine stock doing very well including Labroy. get some labroy as well. my lucky counter, never let me down.

(Post 4169 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:18:08
Author :
Jamesl
Mep

you into Techgrp ? whats your view. Looks bullish

(Post 4170 of 15224)   11/14/2003.17:26:20
Author :
Garrett
7738ok: why can't it be shortist releasing at the last minute

(Post 4171 of 15224)   11/14/2003.18:00:22
Author :
Mephisto
STI will rally on Monday on OCBC and Venture's results.

(Post 4172 of 15224)   11/14/2003.21:39:32
Author :
Maxlim
Mep..will it like DBS & UOB... raise for 2 days then fall badly. US has nothing to show...

(Post 4173 of 15224)   11/14/2003.22:11:15
Author :
Some4me
I guess NOL is paying off their huge debts through this opportune time of higher freight. In other words their offer price was " priced in ' . After greater correction in early 04, it would be a better time to load. Just mu one cent worth.

(Post 4174 of 15224)   11/14/2003.22:15:20
Author :
Some4me
As regards Tech Gp. the volatility is also displayed in other KBW counter. If history is to repeat itself, sudden suge will render it to expensive to catch. At this level, I think its OK to be in.

(Post 4175 of 15224)   11/15/2003.15:04:40
Author :
Aerohigh
Nowadays Good news is bad news and bad news is bad news, trading have to be very careful....

(Post 4176 of 15224)   11/15/2003.15:39:14
Author :
Ochartist
STI - The bulls and the bears are engaged in a ferocious battle.

To the uninitiated this may seem like nothing. However, to many people this is a matter of making or breaking it. . .

So far the bears had gained a bit of an upper hand but then the bulls had also tried to show that they are no weakling. . .

There is nothing much we could do other than to sit tight and watch. . . unless you are one of those who got a couple of millions to throw around

Some older pixes

(Post 4177 of 15224)   11/15/2003.15:56:17
Author :
Hongbao
Ochartist, 1700 may not hold the coming week.. we may see 1680 again.

Shortists will be very happy.

(Post 4178 of 15224)   11/15/2003.16:28:36
Author :
Ochartist
Hi Hongbao,

Yeah, may be good idea to encourage the shortists to short and then force them to cover?

(Post 4179 of 15224)   11/15/2003.19:19:43
Author :
Alchemist


Mood swings, sentiment changes, just like a yo-yo.

(Post 4180 of 15224)   11/16/2003.01:11:07
Author :
Hongbao
Ochartist, big fishes going for year-end holidays, not much strength to move market.

(Post 4181 of 15224)   11/16/2003.16:34:52
Author :
Ljw97
WASHINGTON:The US economy's blistering pace of growth in the third quarter is unlikely to continue, but most analysts see solid if not spectacular growth into 2004.

The sizzling 7.2 percent pace in third-quarter gross domestic product may be a one-time event, economists say, but momentum should carry into the fourth quarter and well into 2004.

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A Wall Street Journal survey of 53 economists showed, on average, a prediction of four percent growth in the fourth quarter of 2003 and 4.1 percent growth in the first quarter of 2004. That pace, the survey found, is likely to hold at roughly 3.9 percent for the remainder of 2004.

David Rosenberg, chief North American economist at Merrill Lynch, said the economy will get another dose of stimulus in early 2004 as more tax cuts kick in, with other factors providing tailwinds.

"Come on -- it's an election year," he said. "And these have an uncanny ability to outperform non-election years by around 1.5 percent in terms of GDP growth."

He noted that tax refunds will provide the equivalent of a wage boost of 2,500 dollars per family.

"And we'll likely get a pre-Y2K-style capex (capital expenditure) spree" as a result of business investment tax breaks.

"All told, about half of next year's expected four percent GDP growth comes out of government stimulus measures," he said.

Ethan Harris at Lehman Brothers said business spending is coming to the rescue of the economy as consumer spending begins to fade.

"Coming out of the war in Iraq, there was a lot of concern that there would be a 'dropping of the baton' in the economy, with the consumer running out of gas before the business sector was up and running," Harris said.

"It now appears that a smooth transition is taking place. ... The recovery looks increasingly balanced and sustainable."

In one sign of renewed confidence, the University of Michigan consumer sentiment index rose to 93.5 in November from 89.6 in late October.

Consumer sentiment is watched closely as a gauge of consumer spending, which represents about two-thirds of US economic activity.

"Even though consumer (spending) is softening a little bit, consumers feel better about the future because job growth is picking up," he said.

"Things can really get better on the spending side if confidence remains relatively strong."

Meanwhile, Federal Reserve officials have been increasing hints that they are in no rush to boost interest rates, in a move to ease concerns in financial markets that a rate hike could hurt business and consumer sentiment and crimp growth.

Some Fed members have suggested that the "potential" US growth rate -- the pace of sustainable growth without sparking inflation -- could be as high as 4.5 percent, instead of the 3.5 percent benchmark used historically.

Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank President Anthony Santomero told a Fed forum in Washington that the US economy is gathering steam but that the job market is still lagging.

"The recovery, tenuous at first, has finally begun to gain momentum," he said. "Third-quarter GDP was stronger than expected."

Santomero said the Fed must look ahead to avert renewed inflationary pressures but noted that this was not a problem at present.

"In light of significant excess capacity and benign inflation pressures, any policy adjustment need not take place in the near future," he said.

The comments came as bond market investors have pushed up interest rates in anticipation of a tightening by the Fed as early as March 2004.

But Robert DiClemente at Smith Barney said the Fed will be on hold until it is clear the economy is on a sustainable path.

"The Fed's message to markets may continue to be 'get back' until they are satisfied that growth is not only self-feeding but that demand is sufficiently solid to root out any last remaining risk of deflation," he said.

- AFP

(Post 4182 of 15224)   11/16/2003.17:02:28
Author :
Ljw97
STI index component stocks doing well

OCBC
-------
OCBC’s Third Quarter 2003 Net Profit
Increased 62% to S$292 million
Net profit for first nine months rose 36% to S$676 million
Singapore, 14 November 2003 – Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation Limited (“OCBC Bank”) today
reported that its third quarter 2003 net profit rose by 62% to S$292 million, compared to S$181 million in
third quarter 2002. The improved performance was driven by a reduction in provisions from S$75 million
to S$37 million, higher contribution from associates and an exceptional net gain of S$72 million from the
divestment of shares in Fraser and Neave, Limited (“F&N”) through a selective capital reduction by F&N.
Operating profit before provisions and goodwill amortisation in the third quarter of 2003 was S$375 million,
an increase of 10% over the same period last year, underpinned by the F&N gain. Net interest income fell
8% due to lower interest margins, while fee and commission income rose 1%. Operating expenses rose
5% from a year ago due mainly to higher staff costs.

Fraser and Neave
-----------------

In view of the strong earnings achieved, the Directors propose, subject to shareholders' approval at the Annual General Meeting to be held on 29 January 2004, a final dividend of 30 cents per share of $1, being AFTER deduction of tax, to be paid on 19 February 2004. Taken with the special dividend of 5 cents and interim dividend of 15 cents this will give an enhanced total distribution for the year of 50 cents per share after tax (last year: 35 cents per share after tax)

Venture
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The Group achieved record revenue and profit after tax for the financial quarter ended 30 September 2003. Revenue grew 36% to S$921 million through strong growth in computer peripherals and storage, test and measurement and printing and imaging products. Profit after tax grew 39% to S$65.8 million through lower cost structure, better efficiency and higher productivity.

For the nine months ended 30 September 2003, revenue grew 45% to S$2.3 billion from S$1.6 billion and profit after tax grew 36% to S$166.8 million from S$122.4 million. The growth is attributable to improved market share and expanded customer base, contributions from the high-mix businesses and higher value-added activities

Asia Pacific Breweries Ltd
--------------------
The Directors are pleased to report a strong performance for the year under review, despite uncertain economic conditions especially in the first half of the year and the impact of SARS during the second half of the year. Group revenue grew 15% to $1.3 billion. In addition to sales growth in regional markets, Singapore's revenue was boosted by the full year effect of taking over the sales and distribution of stout. Group profit before interest, taxation and exceptional items ("PBIT") for the year increased by 26% to just over $177 million. Attributable net profit before exceptional items increased by 11% to reach a record $93.6 million

(Post 4183 of 15224)   11/17/2003.08:34:40
Author :
Pcommoner
Nikkei taking a battering this morning. Sentiments for STI may be affected. Another spiral down?

(Post 4184 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:06:17
Author :
Johnnyned
think these two days will create chances to buy on dip...but be careful and alert if no holdiing power...better not buy for contra..

(Post 4185 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:11:41
Author :
Limandchan
leh wrong leh wrong must be selling cheap today.
Going Cheap Cheap!

(Post 4186 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:18:29
Author :
Amos
aiyoh.. another wrong of wind... teruk man.

(Post 4187 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:20:09
Author :
Johnnyned
do not buy penny stock and stuck into the spiral downtrend...blue chip is still the best bet...penny stock can be down as high as 50-80% in downtrend market as no support from institution or fund...while blue chip will be supported...though some penny stock in prtfoilio of fund can be considered...else do not buy

(Post 4188 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:31:08
Author :
Et4
Only the penny goes up will the blue chips up. Recovery always starts from electronics & manufacturing. Only when consumer spending goes up will blue chips benefit. If people got no money, how to buy financial services, properties, ..etc ???????

(Post 4189 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:40:26
Author :
Et4
I think those companies that have business in China will do exceptionally well. Just back from meeting in Beijing & Shanghai, these cities are full of activities, undergoing structural changes now. In terms of financial services, they are doing huge consolidation and centralization with Shanghai as their primary data centers and Beijing as backup. The IT companies there are extremely strong and huge. Technology wise, they are at least on par with us so can not "bull sh.t" them if u think u want to. Consumers are spending like nobody business, (they have forgetten SARS already).

(Post 4190 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:50:26
Author :
Waitlonglong
Wah Lau, STI so volatile these few weeks....if kenna cover the other gap...manay people will die...hope this day wouldn't come.....

WLL.

(Post 4191 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:53:21
Author :
Waitlonglong
Gain 18, Loss 187 Unchange 387...not that bad...looks like mostly Blues down...

Val 152Mil and Vol 159Mil

WLL.

(Post 4192 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:53:26
Author :
Garrett
volume seem low though...

(Post 4193 of 15224)   11/17/2003.09:55:20
Author :
Et4
I think it should be sustainable as most companies still report good q3 profits.

(Post 4194 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:17:59
Author :
Mdarfsg
I tot DPM oredi reported a better 3Q performance ... gd news right ??

(Post 4195 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:20:32
Author :
Garrett
mostly due to nikkei ...down by 3% on fears of strong yen and weakening dollar

(Post 4196 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:21:17
Author :
Et4
Our tech companies are still doing very well. It is a good time to pick for december upward run.

(Post 4197 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:23:16
Author :
Aerohigh
Nowadays Good news is bad news and bad news is bad news, Time for shopping.....

(Post 4198 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:23:31
Author :
Et4
It just shows our own market can not stand on its own. We are easily affected by other Asian markets.

(Post 4199 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:24:05
Author :
Maxlim
yah.... only no news is good news

(Post 4200 of 15224)   11/17/2003.10:49:06
Author :
Aerohigh
Good to be pessimistic during down trend....
Good to be optimistic during up trend......


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